I was having a discussion with my friends the other day about the mechanics of socialism, and they were of the opinion that while it's fantastic in theory - the truth is a market economy is a far more realistic option, as it 'works', unlike socialism which has failed.
I have discussed the hollow illusion of capitalism 'working' previously so shall not delve into that, nor the semantics and application of 'socialism' in modern political history. Instead I shall be focusing on the idea that leaning towards a political theory of idealism is in some way a bad thing; a faint brush of good intention but ultimately futile and not showing a real understanding of how the world works. I will be focusing on this because this was the overarching sentiment behind the discussion I had, and indeed the same sentiment that comes up every time I discuss radical left ideals in a modern society.
Idealism is not, and should not, be a dirty word. Martin Luther King said he had a 'dream' for a reason; he was envisioning something which was not within the scope of the reality of things, but was a progressive lurch forward towards a better world. If you do not dream then you have nothing to reach for and nothing to achieve but the preservation of the current state of affairs and until we reach a perfect world then idealism will continue to be the engine for progression.
I often feel quite angry to be tarnished as an idealist as if it's some sort of negative characteristic, or as if I'm still a child because of it. 'When I grow up and start to pay taxes I'll understand these things a bit better'. If that's what growing up is then send me off with Peter Pan and let me fight Captain Hook CEO for eternity. I once had a discussion with someone about the legalisation of gay marriage in Australia, and how they thought it probably wouldn't happen because they're a realist and in their opinion it just wouldn't make political sense. Sure it should happen, but what's right and wrong plays little factor in the true mechanics of society.
Maybe that holds some truth, but the reason that this line of thinking holds any substance is because the spread of the attitude itself stops us from aiming for any sort of achievement to begin with. There is a cancerous spread of realists in the world and they are holding the world back from thinking it's actually worth aspiring towards anything at all; as if bending over to receive the rigid dick of party politics is acceptable because our arsehole is so loose after years of traditionalist buggery that, actually, it feels quite enjoyable now. The old public school boy way of thinking holds true because those public school boys have grown up and are now donning their old headmasters' caps in Westminster.
No. We need to get off all fours and pretending we're still living in an animal kingdom state of affairs and accept that dreaming of not getting fucked is a good thing. The best of things. Politics is a system of constant progression but realism drags it back, and the reason that realism is so rife in society - or has any existence at all - is because people think it's an acceptable line of thinking to be resigned to the negative consequences of the political game, or that the few failed attempts at creating a stable system based on equality means we should stop trying. This, of course, links back to my previous discussions on the hollow sense of capitalism 'working' and this is because capitalism is the holy grail for the prematurely middle-aged realist. The holy grail, fittingly, has holes in and is made of wood but - hey, at least we've got a grail so let's not go out and look for a better one. Capitalism has the necessity of a distinct underclass to keep it running yet somehow it's been drummed into us that this is reconcilable with a system of politics that 'works'.
Idealism, whilst unstable and uncertain, is what has lifted man off of all fours and led him through the animal kingdom to a society where universal suffrage has started and slavery has declined. 'Radical' thinking has led us each step of the way because it's 'radical' to take a step from the trodden path and try a better one. The reason that women and black men are even allowed into Westminster is because people dared to have an ideal different from their present state of affairs, and the mechanics that drove it. Idealism has kept mankind moving forward for centuries and should apply just as much to politics as it does to science. You don't find any medical scientists saying 'well, I think that's enough diseases cured for now', and even though, after years of research and masses of funding we have no cure for cancer the response is to try even harder, not give up. For some reason people can't reconcile this way of thinking with politics, but they should.
Our society is flooded with various cancers: the middle class white man still rules, women are paid less, minorities are still racially abused at football matches and some people grow up poor with the odds firmly against them doing anything else other than dying poor as well. The irony behind my thinking is, of course, that some might say I'm not applying the same aspirational attitude for the working class as I do for myself, but I am merely saying that it requires aspiration on both sides - something the Conservatives in particular miss entirely. Yes, people growing up in poor families can, do, and should aspire to lift themselves out of poverty but the truth of the matter is that they're far less likely to achieve the same things someone growing up in a richer family is, and if we're going to ask them to aspire then we have to aspire too and change the framework of society into something that isn't so intrinsically unequal. Otherwise we're continuing to live in a society of invisible slavery; driven by cause and effect rather than the whip and chain.
Everyone should aspire. The cancers in our society will never be solved with a realist attitude, and if you're a realist then you're encouraging people around you to be a realist too - as if it's some legitimate way of thinking. It's not; it's backwards and in every sense it's anti-political philosophy. Political philosophies have ideals behind them for a reason, and harbouring those ideals at heart always is not a bad thing, even in the light of roadblocks. Politics is a world of ladders that various minorities are still climbing but the greater climb towards an overall better society requires reaching from all sides; something realists will never do. Realism is standing on the same step of the ladder where idealists forever aim upwards. Sure, you might miss the next step and sometimes you might fall entirely, but that's an awful lot better than staying where you are and enjoying the bittersweet view of a cancered, imperfect society and treating it as a utopia rather than the incomplete construction site it is. Keep climbing, keep building and never sway from the fact that this needs to be done. Hold it to heart and don't let it flutter away.
By Harvey Slade
I don't think anyone was disagreeing with your belief in idealism, I certainly wasn't. The nature of idealism is a best case scenario which mitigates with real world issues surrounding the theory.
ReplyDeleteThere isn't anything wrong with this as an ideal but how can you look at the ideals of socialism and say "Yeah, this works we should aspire to it" and then go and completely berate the ideals of capitalism as a broken system that will never work because we've seen it doesn't in practise?
as I understand it idealism takes humanity out of political ideas and says that logically they could work. So a good way to compare two ideals would be to judge which one is logically better than the other.
I can't actually be bothered to do this but I guess you could in theory.
By The Devils Advocate
ps nice ANALogy
DeleteI wrote a long reply to this which actually made me think a lot about what my philosophy actually is so thanks for challenging me on this! My conclusion basically was that I see socialism and capitalism less as two systems to choose between and socialist ideals as a medicine to bring society towards that utopian stage from its capitalist errors(making me decide I am actually a communist; not a socialist)
ReplyDeleteI think capitalism is fundamentally flawed in the sense it's, by definition impossible to achieve equality within it (competition does after all have its winners and losers) but I totally get your point that this, again, seems very hypocritical. But I think finding equality out of fundamental inequality requires gradual transition, using socialism, into communism. It's less about saying 'this works we should aspire to it' and more highlighting the ideal of equality and highlighting whatever means to achieve it.
Thanks a lot for replying though, definitely made me think a lot.
and instead I see socialist ideals...*
ReplyDeleteAnd I guess this means my overarching message is everyone should aspire to be communists. Back to the drawing board.
ReplyDeleteffs Harvey, you've killed our American audience now
DeleteOr more that if people see the credence of a system, or an ideology they agree with, not to dismiss it for reasons of realism. Yes, that's the point, actually. Likewise if a you agree with Libertarian philosophy - go for it. None of this centre-left/right bullshit.
ReplyDeleteI guess this applies better as an analogy for issues such as black/white male/female equality than economic issues, though.
Yeah the argument is limited more to economic issues but to expand on that sitting in the middle and having a blend of socialist and capitalist ideals isn't a bad thing.
ReplyDeleteIf you really look into the future of a post/almost post scarcity society where resources aren't limited there will be a fundamental shift in the way we look at the economy.
Everyone will have their base needs and even the 'lower class' will be able to live a very fulfilling life without worrying about food, hygiene and health. A blend of these ideals will allow for competition, betterment and ultimately progression because people have an incentive to come up with ideas that a) benefit them b) benefit everyone as a result.
That's a good point; resources are the determining factor in political philosophy
Deletewe just need some European human rights to make sure everyone has their base needs, beyond that let people do what they like.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this
DeleteI couldn't agree more with this statement
DeleteEleven comments?! Get off my patch!
ReplyDeleteHmm, let's see now. I suppose my point is that 'It doesn't work' is a pretty fatalistic way to look at capitalism, socialism, communism, or for that matter any societal construct. They each HAVE worked to some degree at certain times and in certain places. Of course, they all have drawbacks.
I do agree that idealism is important - vital, even. But don't be too hard on realism, without which even watered-down ideals would never see the light of day. Even if a theory is perfect, the people to which it applies are anything but, and compromise of some kind is almost always necessary.
Commie Bastards!
Hey Harvey, did you delete facebook? I only just saw your last two posts on the blog. This is beautiful and excellent and true. I get the same shit for my beliefs. This anti-idealistic, hyper-realist centralisation of politics has, I think, really tarnished the word "liberal" for me. I guess in American politics I'm a liberal (actually, in American politics I'm probably a Communist God-Hater who should be deported the moment I set foot on their soil) , but if David Cameron's essentially one too, how can I reconcile that with being a conscientious leftist?
ReplyDeleteOh, ok, you're back on facebook. That was trippy.
DeleteOne of Jack's ex-teachers here...
ReplyDeleteWhat a brilliant piece! Really struck a chord with me. I can think of many occasions when my idealism has been met with she's-so-naive smirks and raised eyebrows.